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Gael García Bernal interview (April 25)
April 25, 2006
The Mexican movie star tells Dave Calhoun why Tijuana is the closest he gets to Hollywood.
We're
sitting in a little breakfast place in downtown New York and Gael
García Bernal is talking breathlessly about the disastrous effects of
globalisation on the rural areas of his home country. Two days earlier,
the actor flew to New York from Hong Kong, where he spent ten chaotic
days as an Oxfam representative at a summit of the World Trade
Organisation. Last night, he was knocking back the drinks and dancing
into the small hours at a party in Greenwich Village. Tomorrow, he'll
fly home to Mexico to prepare for his first gig behind the camera as a
director. His talk is full of passion. His thoughts dart from politics
to film to women and back to politics.
'The people who will be
affected will be the poor people,' he says, dissecting the future of
global trade. 'The countries who will be fucked up will be the poor
countries. It's going to lead to civil wars.'
Bernal first grabbed the attention of the world's art-house film crowd in 2000 in Alejandro González Iñárritu's 'Amores Perros',
an extreme story of three lives that collide around a car crash in
Mexico City. He was 21, and the film turned him into hot property in
Mexico.
The next year, he made the sexually charged road-movie 'Y Tu Mamá También', which confirmed him, alongside his old mate and co-star Diego Luna, as Mexico's most in-demand and best-known young actor.
Suddenly,
he was the talk of the world's independent film scene. Here was a
pin-up with brains and good taste. No wonder there were queues around
the block when he turned up at last year's London Film Festival.
Since then, he's played Che Guevara for Brazilian filmmaker Walter Salles in 'The Motorcycle Diaries'; a beautiful cross-dresser for the Spanish auteur Pedro Almodóvar in 'Bad Education'; and a romantic dreamer opposite Charlotte Gainsbourg in French director Michel Gondry's latest mind-warp of a movie, 'The Science of Sleep'
(which premiered at Sundance in January). It's an impressive roll-call
of collaborators – and not a dodgy Hollywood picture in sight.
'I
think Tijuana is the closest I've ever got to Hollywood,' Bernal jokes
as we talk about the three months he recently spent on location in the
notorious Mexican border town for Alejandro González Iñárritu's latest
film, 'Babel'. 'It sounds like a really bad tragedy, doesn't it? "The
Closest I Ever Got To Hollywood Was Tijuana"!'
The more you
speak to Bernal, the more time you spend in his company, the more you
understand that there's something unusual about this 27-year-old actor.
There's a refreshing, old-fashioned seriousness to the way he
approaches life and work. He#s engaged – politically, culturally,
socially – in a way that isn't awkward or mannered. He's hungry to
learn, to work with the right people, to do the right thing, to make a
difference. If all this makes him sound a little earnest, it shouldn't.
There's a natural, confident ease to his commitment to cinema, politics
and the world about him.
It's an engagement that's thrown into
sharp relief when we talk about his move over to London and to drama
school at the age of 17. At first, he was shocked by this country's
apathy towards politics and culture. As an outsider, he expected the
Rolling Stones, the Marquee Club and a thriving art-house cinema scene.
What he discovered were the Spice Girls, 'Lock, Stock...' and fellow students who would rather down pints than watch films.
'I
found this difficult coming from Mexico,' Bernal explains. 'In Mexico,
there's the feeling that everything you do has a political complexity,
you know? Which it does. Also, I think my attitude had something to do
with my family. They work in the theatre, underground theatre, so maybe
I was pretentious in that sense – or snobbish perhaps.'
Bernal's
teenage years coincided with a tumultuous time in Mexican history. The
country was emerging from what he labels 'an old tyrant democracy'.The
Zapatista movement in Chiapas was rising up against the government.
Street demonstrations were part of everyday life. Like many kids of his
age, he was swept up by the energy and sheer excitement of the
capital's mass support for the Zapatistas.
'That movement
polarised the country, but it also united a lot of people,' Bernal
recalls. 'We helped to stop the war. It felt that whatever we did would
count. Something like a million and a half people demonstrated every
day when the war started between the government and the guerrillas.
'I
was very involved. I helped with sending food, writing and reading
about the situation, and demonstrating about it on the marches. It was
great. I was young, and it was fun. And I've got to say, I met my first
girlfriend – my first real girlfriend – there as well. It was a great
place to meet girls!'
Sex and politics. There's nothing po-faced
about Bernal's political engagement. It's wrapped up in movies, fun,
friendships, music, travel, theatre and family. There's something
pleasing and bohemian about his world view. In Europe and North
America, too few people believe that protest – let alone art – can make
a difference. Bernal would get along fine in Paris circa '68.
Which
helps explain why Bernal spent the past ten days at the WTO summit in
Hong Kong. In Hollywood, political engagement more often than not means
quick, loud gestures and red faces for all concerned. Bernal's
commitment is more steady, more regular, more quiet. He attended the
mass protests at the G8 summit in Edinburgh last year on the same
weekend that Madonna and Elton et al performed very publicly at the
Live 8 concert in Hyde Park. In Hong Kong, he sat diligently in meeting
after meeting at the WTO summit, discussing ideas, presenting case
studies, assisting grander delegates such as Mary Robinson, the
ex-president of Ireland (or 'La Presidenta!' as Bernal calls her,
laughing). Before travelling to Hong Kong, he spent time in the Chiapas
region of Mexico, discovering for himself the effects that free trade
is having on local maize and coffee producers.
Such
independent thinking is obvious in Bernal's attitude to films and
filmmaking. He's happier on the margins, where the real ideas lie. It's
worth contrasting his career with those of younger actors of a similar
stature from the States – those who one minute are hailed as the
saviours of independent cinema and the next are slipping into 'Spider-Man' suits or getting cosy in 'King Kong's
computer-generated fur. It's easier to say yes than it is to say no –
the reply Bernal has so far given to approaches from Hollywood.
The screenwriter Milo Addica (who wrote 'Monster's Ball'and 'Birth') tells a good story about how Bernal came to land the lead role in 'The King',
the independent American movie that British director James Marsh shot
in late 2004 and that will be released here next month. Bernal plays
Elvis Valderez, a young American with a Mexican mother, who leaves the
navy and goes in search of his father, a Baptist preacher (William
Hurt) who he never knew. It's a search that has terrible consequences
for all involved.
Many American actors considered Bernal's role in 'The King'.
They read Addica's script, they liked it, but, as the writer recalls,
they ultimately backed off for what he sneeringly terms 'moral
reasons'. They didn't like the film's violence or the ambiguity of a
lead character, at first a hero, who commits a horrific act. Bernal, on
the other hand, leapt at the chance to make the film. Spot the
difference. Bernal has balls. The others have 'profiles'.
'We
went to a number of young actors, all of which you know and I won't
name names,' Addica goes on. 'They all liked the script but, to all
intents and purposes, were concerned with the audience perception of
themselves. They wanted changes made to accommodate how the audience
would perceive them. Of course, when you pay an actor $20 million he
will do an Irish jig on the table for you. He doesn't give a flying
fuck.'
Bernal's attitude towards cinema is rooted in Mexico and he is inspired by real stories and the struggle familiar to his countrymen to get things done.
He says that making 'The Motorcycle Diaries',
for which he travelled through Argentina, Peru and Mexico, reaffirmed
his commitment to Latin America and Latin American cinema. Earlier this
year, he set up a production company, Canana Films, in Mexico City in
partnership with friend and actor Diego Luna, and in February they
launched a travelling documentary festival that began in Mexico City
and stopped off at 16 towns across the country. Right now, Bernal is
back in Mexico and shooting his first film as a director: 'Défecit' is a drama that explores enduring class divisions in his country.
Emotionally,
Bernal invests a huge amount in everything he does. You can't imagine
him coasting through a project; he's too sensitive, he cares too much.
He says that usually he wants to become friends with his directors –
whether they like it or not, he adds, joking.
'That was the
best thing about all these films, on a very personal level, to get to
know these people. And I really get emotional about that. Many people
have explained their ideas of what cinema is, but so far to me the best
definition is that cinema is further proof, further affirmation that
fiction can move people more than reality, more than the facts. Also,
that in the process of making it you get to travel and make friends.'
We
walk around the corner and back to the hotel, still talking about
films, Mexico, London and New York, before saying goodbye in the lift.
Bernal has two further, urgent meetings today. The first is at the
local cinema, where he plans to catch the Tommy Lee Jones-directed 'The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada', a superb film written by his fellow countryman Guillermo Arriaga, the writer of 'Amores Perros' and '21 Grams'.
The second is with a TV set in a bar somewhere. His favourite football
team is playing in a cup final tonight. He wouldn't miss it for the
world. The revolution rolls on.
'The King' opens on May 19. 'The Science of Sleep' opens on July 28. Source: Time Out London
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